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Feb 10Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Good article. Yes, it's not always fun, but for the most part we are very happy with our time here. We have what I would call a "working" retirement. We have a 4 ha flower farm that keeps us very busy. We planted about an 1/2 ha with lavender 16 mths ago and had our first harvest last summer, albeit small. We are prepping another 1/2 ha for more lavender, hopefully to plant next fall. So that keeps me busy, while my wife has very much gotten into ceramics. We did a series of Christmas markets this fall down on the south coast of the Algarve and did pretty well selling some of wife's creations along with lavender products and protea flowers from the farm. We have also finally gotten use of our greenhouse and, after renovating it, are ready to plant some veggies and papayas. I am also going to try to propagate various types of plants from cuttings (proteas, ornamental eucalyptus, lavender). The only real downside, apart from the usual bureaucratic red tape that you mentioned, has been an ongoing contractual dispute with our neighbor (from whom we purchased the property) that may evolve into legal action. It has also helped that both of us are proficient in Portuguese so we really haven't dealt with much of a language barrier. So no real regrets about our move here. Life is good.

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Feb 9Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Carol! I'd love to be able to share your posts or parts of them with my audience of people considering a move. I would credit you, of course. Would you be open to chat about it? heather@bootsonthegroundpt.com

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I'll respond to you privately, Heather. - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

I loved reading this, Carol. You are an excellent writer! What an interesting story - both the general store part and moving to Portugal . Such issues to consider!! Looking forward to your next post.

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Thanks for your comments, Kathy. I appreciate your support! - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

RI is a lovely state, 195W headaches not-withstanding. It's one of the reasons we will be exploring the silver coast in Portugal this June as we are drawn to that coastline's rugged topography. The hardest decision will be where in Portugal we finally focus on for the move. We are working on convincing our son that he would love to go to college in Dublin at Trinity College - even took him for a campus tour last March at the end our our vacation in Portugal. We are moving for many of the same reasons you pointed out in your reply. Wishing you all the very best - let the adventures begin.

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Loved your story & honesty

My husband & I from opposite sides of the world I born in New Zealand & he the UK

Our journey to here has taken us living in numerous countries for careers separately as a couple & as a family

But those years are what to me are / where the expat years where one goes specially for a time to work and you know they are not forever even if it’s for 6 yrs in 1 country

The day arrives where once again you pack up & leave & start again.

Our move here has been as immigrants

fortunately my husband had lived here before speaks writes Portuguese fluently and for quite some years we have come here for some of our summer holidays

So everyone thinks it should be easy & some days it is

yes at times things / places are familiar

the bureaucracy I’ve lived with far worse and of course far easier but we try to just go with the flow

Renovating / restoring a Quinta is a whole different story & over a year since we purchased due to numerous things not going to plan nothing has started

& life has been on hold a lot of the past 14 months but we are assured it will be all happening

soon … business plans laid out but still on hold bubbling away more like simmering at the moment

So right now am I happy NO I’m frustrated & somedays lonely

at times homesick but for what was & for places lived & people there are days I long to return to Asia to see friends & know the familiar sounds and the foods of the countries the busyness

Friends now scattered in the 4 corners of this planet I miss them all

And there are days where I love being here & that this is home & it will be all ok

It’s work in progress I miss what was I’m unsure what will be & how it will be but life has taught me that nothing is linear to have adventures you must be brave & prepared to expect the unexpected & here I’ve learnt patience

this quote sums it up

“Everything will be alright in the end

and if it’s not alright then it is not

the end “

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I love this quote as well.

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I love the quote, Vanessa! It's a perfect summary! Lately, I've been hearing my late father's words which he always spoke when he sensed I wasn't in a good place, "It will all work out." Thanks for sharing your thoughts and challenges. - CW

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Feb 9Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Yes, sometimes it truly takes faith and I have felt that need to tell myself that a LOT over the last few months!

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Thank you again Carol and for your fathers shared wisdom thanks for reading the rather long reply 😅

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

I hear you! We are still in the honeymoon phase since we've only been living here since last May. However, there have been hiccups that seemed almost insurmountable at times. Keeping in mind, that life has hiccups wherever you live really helps.

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Thanks for the comment, Maury. Some days (still) I feel as if I'm an admin trying to organize, file, and discipher all the frutrating things that are part of living in a new country (but I always have time at the end of the day for wine!) - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Thank you Carol. We feel the same! Always let us know when you will be back here and we will put the coffee on!

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Hi Barb & Carol, we are still here in RI and planning to move to Portugal in 27' when our only child goes off to college. We too have visited that store location, we live in Bristol so are very familiar with the area. Loved the post. Agree that being prepared to weather the 'not so fun' moments is key to keeping a steady hand on the tiller. It will be quite a change for my husband, although he loves it every time we have visited in the past 2 years. I have an advantage, being Azorean born my son and I already have Portuguese citizenship and my husband will get his approved later this year so we will not be dealing with any of the visa struggles. I am also a native Portuguese speaker, so that has many advantages. But even with that said, as a project manager by profession, I expect that I will need to recalibrate my sense of 'timely' completion of any task. :) I hope that in the end, for all of us, the good days and 'fun times' far outnumber the challenging ones.

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Am in Warwick- not a native Rhode Islander but have been here for years and I love living near the sea. Being retired has allowed us to travel extensively and the next year is crammed with a variety of travel experiences. Always on my adventures I evaluate what life would be like in the place I am exploring and I find so many positives in so many places. To be without all the gun violence and dicey political stuff holds much appeal. I wish you the very best on your new adventure. Portugal is gorgeous and I have never met kinder people. My good wishes are with you!!

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Sounds like a plan!

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Carol-

A great read for sure! I have nothing but interest in and admiration for your choices. And although I do not live in Portugal, but rather in Rhode Island, I have visited Portugal and really enjoyed it. And I have been to your former country store, some time after you weren’t there. Honestly I cannot imagine that undertaking and I think I might have found that fun almost none of the time. But dealing with the public when you run a small business can be very trying a lot of the time.

I have love following your journey, seeing your experiences through your eyes. You have that ability to appreciate newness, the eagerness for exploration and learning and the groundedness ( I am not sure that’s even a word!) to be real about the universal challenges of daily living. I don’t know if I will leave this place I call home in my lifetime. I do love to explore and am often eager for newness. I do keep searching and looking and questioning. What I do know is that I will continue to follow your journey with interest, admiration and respect and I will always wish you and Paul well, hoping our paths cross again at some point. It is always a pleasure!

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Thank you for your comment, Barb and your kind words. You and Beth are special friends and will always be welcome in our home in Portugal should you choose to visit in the future. And of course, whenever we get back to New England, we'll be sure to get together! - CW

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Thank you for this post in its honest portrayal of your experience, and the beautiful walk through your past life. My husband Ted and I answered the question you posed the same way, "most of the time" because that is real life wherever we live. Overall, after four months and still waiting for our residency cards, we can say that we have made new friends and are about to purchase a new apartment. We're learning to "be Portuguese about it" which means taking delays in stride, rejoicing in small victories like remembering your NIF in Portuguese, the stuff of the everyday that does matter, and that encourages me to keep going. Some days are a slog emotionally, but most of the time I can't believe we did this crazy, amazing move.

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Feb 9Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

100000%, nail on head! Congrats on your apartment, that is a big accomplishment. It ALL IS. I love having an interaction all in Portuguese and mostly understanding what was said/meant... it's not everytime that is for sure, but I give myself pats on the back when it happens.

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I'm glad you did this crazy, amazing move, Maria! And you're right - wherever you live your life, you have to learn to take things in stride even when it's tough to do so. I think you're well on your way to a good life in Portugal! - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Fun? Fun everyday? If you set yorself up for that expectation you will definitely be disappointed at least “some of the time”. Perhaps the better comparison is “are we having more fun now”.

We have lived in Lagos for almost 3 years, after having vacationed here previously, and have experienced all of the same issues (do not get me started about the driver’s license exchange!). I won’t lie - the first year was very hard for me. I missed my friends, colleagues, and family. It was covid-time and the restrictions were difficult. The 5-hour time zone difference was hard to navigate with work. My husband was already fully retired so he would wander off to the marina while I stayed in the apartment all day working and taking care of pets.

Eventually, we began finding our “tribe” - foodies, wineauxs, sailing buddies, padel players, dog friends, etc. We purchased e-bikes and ride all over town. Beaches and cafes are available everywhere all the time. The food - so good! This is such a different lifestyle from our US life and we love it. Now we are having fun!

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I'm glad you've found your Portuguese "tribe" Leslie. I know from personal experience that Paul and I are doing much better living our lives here because of the support of new friends who "get it". Enjoy! - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Thanks for this, Carol--insightful & well put as always.

My wife & I made our move from NW US to Eastern Algarve 3.5 weeks ago, after 3.5 years of weighing our options, deciding on Portugal, so much research & preparation & connecting with people, & 2 trips here (1 to explore, 1 to get our lease for the visa). We had never lived outside the US before (unless you count a 2-month summer language program in Nigeria during Graduate studies more than 30 years ago, when all the details were taken care of for us), and had never traveled in Europe before this decision.

Strenuous purging of belongings and sad goodbye-we'll-stay-in-touch-es made our last weeks in the States very heavy lifting, especially over the holidays. So we arrived, like everyone does after a move, with a lot of fatigue & stress to clear--and like every move, there are setbacks and confusions & delays as you settle in, but compounded by the limits of one's language skills and one's experience with "how things are done here".

In other words, like you said: real life of household chores and navigating services & systems doesn't go away when you immigrate to a place where you believe you can build your best life. And of course you bring your personality, your personal history, and relationship dynamics with you (you just might not have unpacked them all yet...). Things that make you irritable or angry or afraid will still make you irritable or angry or afraid.

We are very much in love with Tavira, a beautiful small city with a dynamic civic life that celebrates the arts & the environment (also a really great public library). But is it always unmitigated fun to live here, with Portuguese systems & customs + the choices we've made, the resources we have, & the people we are? Of course not. Cuz life & cuz humans.

Almost everything we do here right now is a learning process, which was partly the point of making this huge leap, but that doesn't make it less tiring. I have to work at staying self-aware and aware of my limits (cuz I can hit those limits pretty hard!). Give us a couple years, and it will be more & more just our life. We look forward to that!

And I swear I'm going to figure out how to navigate the Android TV box that came with our Internet+TV+phone+cell phones package, once our sofa comes (on sale 50% off, but not in stock) and I have a little time to sit around messing with TV. :)

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Thanks for your comment, Abbie and welcome to Portugal! Tavira is a great spot and one of our favorite Algarve cities. Let me know how it goes with the TV - I'm positive that we don't utilize ours as much as we could and it's been well over 2 years now! Maybe I'll figure it out someday... - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Made me smile to read your post. My husband feels right at home and takes each bureaucratic hurdle in his stride. I'm not yet as comfortable riding these ever changing waves or waiting and appreciating the unknown. As you say, some jobs just never go away. Acceptance should clearly be my mantra. Love the honesty in your writing!

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Thanks for your comment, Tanya. I guess we both have a lot to learn from our husbands! I can say that I used to get completely worked up when something didn't go right. I still do, but find myself accepting things more and fighting things less. I guess that's the positive side of living in Portugal! - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

While we aren't in Portugal, our move to Denmark included a similar set of circumstances: two of the three of us had never visited. We didn't know much about basic things like grocery shopping. We had studied as much as we could about health care and school options--the truth is, living in a new place is so different from traveling, I don't think there's any possible comparison. We recently learned about "the Expat Curve", the literal fluctuations that occur as you try and adapt to a new life in a new country. It's a worthwhile exploration...and quite eye-opening.

We get many of the same observations you do. Denmark! Oh how fun! H.C. Andersen! Free healthcare! Bicycles! Yes, those things are here, but we experience them all through a lens that's different than people who were born and raised here. And only sometimes, is it fun.

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Great comment, Cie! Thank you! - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

Great post Carol. Most of my friends think I jet around this continent and sit in a cafe all day when in reality the toilets demand a regular cleaning and laundry is almost a daily occurrence (think tiny washing machine). I almost spit out my coffee about your sheet sizing comment. We have three different sizes for one bed. I'll never get in right.

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Thanks for the comment, Mary. Part of my (glamorous) job in the country store was toilet cleaning. And tablecloth washing. Not much different for me here in Portugal. Some jobs just never go away... -CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

I call our move to Portugal (we’ve been here 8 months) a push-pull phenomenon. We definitely experienced a pull to Europe and Portugal particularly( we had been here before several times) as well as a push out the door of America, particularly due to the gun violence and the retraction of Roe v Wade. In what seemed to us as a troubling turn backwards and a negation of the progress of our entire adult lives for equality and tolerance, we decided to live out the rest of our lives in a peaceful place. Is it all sunshine in Portugal? Well, in about 8 months here in the Eastern Algarve, literally yes. Are there daily frustrations? You bet. Do we miss the people we left behind? Definitely. Would we do it again? Probably. Will we live here forever? Who knows?

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Thanks for your comment, Wendy. I have learned never to say "never" so who knows if Portugal is our end game? I think it's important to be open-minded and I admire your perspective! - CW

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Feb 8Liked by Carol A. Wilcox

I enjoyed reading your honest thoughts. My wife and I love Portugal, and do not regret our choice at all. But after our two-year honeymoon period (been here over fours years now), it's just your life, with all the same ups and downs you experience anywhere. We'd just rather be experiencing it here in Portugal.

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Great perspective! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! -CW

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